What pisses me off...........

by **bluesilver** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:00 pm

Neck Deep wrote:Why are we of this mentality where cyclists should get out of the way? How about you wait and slow down for a bit? Exercise some patience and overtake safely when you can. There's really no hurry.

The automobile is such a physically, environmentally and sociologically destructive force, it needs to back the f*ck down for a time. Its had its day. Now's the time to be a humble driver.

There again, I live in Portland, where its not uncommon on some routes for bikes to out number cars and take over the whole road... and oh how glorious that feels.

The law states that holding up 5 or more vehicle is illigal, that's why. AND we are scared of running your @ss over. Its not about hating bicyclists, its about driving a boat of steel and having a swervy-unaware toothpic of flesh and aluminum in the way. We don't know weather or not your aware of us.

by **Betty** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:02 pm

I guess my point is that not all those who bike are respectful of the rules of the road, just as not all drivers are as respectful as I am with lives of the turds that dont follow the biking rules.

As far as the traffic layouts, I dont live in a city so I wouldnt know the convenience of hopping a scooter to the market. Maybe I just need a pony and a cart.

by **Neck Deep** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:03 pm

Likewise. And lets not reduce this to 'us vs them,' I drive quite frequently.

As far as I'm concerned we are traffic. That law you mention, just goes to show how autocentric the system is. The law and logic often don't coincide, especially in traffic.

by **Neck Deep** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:04 pm

Betty wrote: Maybe I just need a pony and a cart.

That would be rad.

by **Betty** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:05 pm

Too-chee

by **Neck Deep** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:05 pm

bluesilver wrote: AND we are scared of running your @ss over. .

not as scared as WE are of ending up splattered on the black-top...

again let's not reduce this to 'You Vs We.' its not that simple.

by **bluesilver** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:12 pm

Neck Deep wrote:
bluesilver wrote:
Neck Deep wrote:I'll never understand, how when incidents like this go down, inevitably, it always comes back to how idiotic cyclists are....

It is true, there are possibly just as many idiots on bikes as there are in cars. However, when a cyclist makes a stupid decision/ bad mistake, it probably won't kill or harm you that much.

Except for the whole possibility of being charged with involuntary manslaughter

Most car/ bike accidents do not end up with this charge. Here in Portland, at least, drivers are getting away with 'involuntary manslaughter' on a regular basis.

Even if your not charged, you still live with the fact that you killed someone.

I've been stuck behind bikers that just seem completely unaware they are holding up a few cars. I know you can understand with the fear of someone else making a mistake and using your vehicle as a means to accidentally kill themselves.

I don't hate bikers, I'm annoyed by the aloof bikers that don't always know whats going on around them

by **Neck Deep** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:14 pm

Right and I'm annoyed by, as you say, 'aloof drivers that don't always know whats going on around them'

That and a terribly autocentric system.

by **grizldoldfk** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:43 pm

i'd prefer my taxes go to converting rails to trails, and new bikeways parallel with roadways. should've been done in the fifties...and again in the seventies...and i think g.w. had that paramount on his agenda until this whole iraq thing came up.

by **bluesilver** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:11 pm

by **riverjetty** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:58 pm

I wouldn't ride a bike on main thoroughfares considering the level of humanity in this, our reality. Just walk the aisles of a walmart. Now know they are in the cars around you. Now strip yourself of any protection, and put yourself at their mercy. I'll take a pass, even if biking is good for the environment.

by **Betty** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:23 pm

Yeah then take an adventure to Nordstroms, then stop off at Starbucks for a crapacino. Those are the kind of people riding their 6000$ 10 speed down the middle of the road.

Pretty broad statements.

by **bluesilver** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:38 pm

I covet thy neighbors $6000 bike

by **RockyVonTone** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:08 pm

next car that gets in my way..bitch is gettin rammed with some swiss steel.
probably kick the mirror off too.

by **riverjetty** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:01 pm

Betty wrote:Yeah then take an adventure to Nordstroms,

Never seen one, but I'm picturing guys in girls pants, and I'm not as entranced by the picture as I thought I'd be.

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