by gills » Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:56 pm
Sorry if thinking the concept of marketing chick azz to sell surfboards and surf lifestyle is lame. Blue, what you keep defending here is your personal taste in female imagery, and I'm saying that this notion of beauty is the product of marketing, not aesthetics. You can say it's your primal ID all you want, but I don't buy that-- the ID tells you to phuck anything that has a halfway decent chance of surviving nine months, to spread the seed--- whereas, from a psychological perspective, these images are conjured by the super-ego, because they are a quantification of certain moral, cultural and idealistic presumptions about how the psychological apparatus works, and have gained acceptance because of the relentless repetition of these images alongside wealth, power, ambition, etc. They have become the form that the vast majority of men respond to, out of habit, not primal instinct. If you go anthropologically, you'll see massive diversions in 'what constitutes beauty' from culture to culture, present and historical. You can even see it with respect to caucasian, latino, and black populations in this country, even regionally.
Bottom line, I don't have the same lust for these kinds of images that you do (certainly not enough to google around for them and post them for novelity), nor do I like how they affect society in general, especially with respect to young women.
I know a lot of beautiful women and fewer than 5% resonate in form to these types of women, portrayed in this thread. And the criteria by which you judge them, as evidenced by how you choose to represent them here, is something I fundmentally disagree with, and the fact that I'm a faggot for thinking otherwise, or not intune with my own sexual instincts is such a load of crap I can't believe you're pushing it.
I had experience with a sibling who attempted suicide in her coming of age years because of her genetic predisposition to be overweight, and when compared to her 'friends' she was fat, and at that time of life, she was pretty damaged by what 'she was expected to look like.' She developed an eating disorder, etc. So if you're curious why I might have a visceral reaction to this kind of crap, and the psychological and societal forces that have contributed to my world view, now you know. Beyond that, I've been in a relationship with a stunningly brilliant and beautiful woman for about ten years, and I listen to her, and I empathize with what its like to be a woman constantly being compared to these kinds of stereotypical women that, even here, engenders some people to say things like, 'maybe these women should eat less and go to the gym.' whatever the intention is-- sarcasm is or not.
I like 'em black, brown, puerto rican and haitian....
Wilbur's daughter thinks she's fat and she's not. What's the cause of that? Where is she getting the information that makes her believe, wholeheartedly that she's fat? My guess is that its the images of women being marketed (by yes, both men and women) in the very manner depicted here.
Sorry, but I doubt you kind find any pyschologist that would analyze your eye candy selections that would come to any other conclusion than these women are portrayed to epitomize sex. Not, 'gee, she looks cool, I'd like to get to know her.' No, it's 'Man dood, I'd tap that azz.'
I don't know everything, not by a long shot, but I do think about these things a lot. It's my nature to do so.