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Postby Gazsurf » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:12 pm

bluesilver wrote:Objectify this. You know you are, FP :)
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Wilko just emailed me, the sheep 3rd from the front on the right side of the picture, no not the one below the silver mailbox the one just to the left of her....... he says she looks familiar.

I thought I'd pass that on.
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Postby HessXXpress » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:42 pm

more women should aspire to look like those women. theyd probly live longer
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Postby gills » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:53 pm

clint jones wrote:dumb looking girls?

You don't even know these chicks and yet you're calling them dumb looking? Man you've got some balls. I guess the other picture of the girl surfing isn't good enough since she isn't getting barreled?

For the record, I objectify once a day on average.

Check out www.stuffwhitepeoplelike.com and go to #101. It's classic.


dood, they are dumb looking. Sexy rubbing up against surfboards? Jesus, gag me with a maggot---- I don't know even one woman who would identify with that sort of crap. Dumb looking and dumb are two different things. And the one photo of the late bottom turn, is, actually pretty cool. All I'm saying is that I think surf girl ad porn is lame and it perpuates a myth about beauty that I don't subscribe to, nor do I think it does anything but hurt women in general. None of this is to say that I don't find women attractive, but true attraction is a lot more complex than eye candy--- its chemistry, its type, its political, its a lot more than, 'nice piece of azz.' When I see women like that, in that formulaic base jerk off pose, , I think--- you suck, have some dignity. Clint, you know some of the women I've hung out with, and what's hot about them is that they'd kick someone's azz for looking at them the way. Beauty = strength, poise, grace, dignity, intellect, creativity, athleticism, and chemistry. I don't get any of that from looking at those photos. I'm not some saint who doesn't find ladies attractive, it's just that visceral feeling is predicated on something different than what those images purport. But whatever, to each their own.
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Postby jerichv » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:13 pm

gills wrote:And lets not forget what those kinds of images do--- constant damage to a young woman coming of age who is constantly exposed to images of women that are popularized by men, though probably less than one percent of women have bodies like that, and thus, it engenders feelings of insecurity, and self hate in a young girl.

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maybe more women should eat less and go to the gym more often, just saying its an idea. then more percentage of chicks would look OH SO GOOD like the ones ol'blue shared with us...i especially like the one picture where she looks like she's making love to the board, with that come catch me f*%$ me look.....priceless
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Postby nm » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:35 pm

jerichv wrote:maybe more women should eat less and go to the gym more often, just saying its an idea. then more percentage of chicks would look OH SO GOOD...


&*)))&^^%^%!!!!! **^%(&!!!! **%%()__^# Y^#$$*(I& b *U**R$R$Y!!!!!!


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oh.....and this....?

bs wrote:....what you see as mindless, I see as art.


Ah....yes. The plastic surgeon....a true artist. Or....maybe it's the photog? Airbrushing.....that qualifies as art. :roll:
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Postby Temperance » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:53 pm

Last time I went to the gym, I saw the sickliest looking woman in the locker room--I could have counted every bone in her back. She definitely worked out. Definitely. She also looked like she didn't eat, because she was a walking skeleton.
I saw her on the scale.

Some of the comments I read really piss me off. But I'm going to assume that jerich's comments were meant to be sarcastic.
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Postby Trula » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:57 pm

Being a skinny blonde is not that easy for most girls. Have you ever seen how many women go to a Weight Watchers meeting. If it were easy they would not be paying the $40 a month minimum member fee plus everything else. I know there is no physical way that I will ever be a size 4 but I am okay with that. The only person that I care what they think about my body is my boyfriend, and myself. Curves are sexy.
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Postby nm » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:59 pm

Trula wrote:...my boyfriend....


OMG!!!!

Now look what you've done grzld......!!!!
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Postby Spider » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:35 pm

jerichv wrote:
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maybe more women should eat less and go to the gym more often, just saying its an idea. then more percentage of chicks would look OH SO GOOD like the ones ol'blue shared with us...i especially like the one picture where she looks like she's making love to the board, with that come catch me f*%$ me look.....priceless[/quote]


f u jerich. and hess, and blusnot.
enough of this crap already.
maybe some guys should eat less, and drink less beer and do more pushups, and exercise their top brain a little.

and thanks gills. and nm, let's kick some azz .
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Postby nm » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:39 pm

Spider wrote:...maybe some guys should exercise their top brain a little.


:lol:

Dreamer....
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Postby Wilbur Kookmeyer » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:44 pm

This is a tough call for me.

One one side, I am a man. Men...even men like you Gills.... are (at least at the more primal point) visually driven.

These women are hot. You know it. I know it. And the advertisers know it.

If any straight man looks at these women and does not think they are attractive...they are lying. Either about not finding them attractive, or about their sexual alignment.

On the other hand, I am a father of a teenage girl.

I survived more than one relationship with neurotic and borderline disordered workout-a-holics and self deprivation size 2 girls.

My daughter refuses to take off her hoodie.

Why?

Because she thinks she is fat.

She is about 5 foot 4 and 135 lbs of budding curves.

But she is not even close to being fat.

But...she is also not close to being the images that are presented to her through advertisement, TV, movies, and even her teen heart-throb magazines and music videos.

She has a better body than most of her friends and is on the lighter side of many of her fellow students.

But she thinks she is fat.

And she will not take off her hoodie.

I have known many women in my life who have lived in shame, struggled, fought, tortured themselves, and nearly destroyed their lives, all because they did not look like the girls in those photos.

Those photos are a lie.

And so is any heterosexual man who says they are not attractive.

It is a slippery slope.

In my opinion...the most attractive part of a woman is her mind.

I also like women in glasses.

However I am just shallow enough to have my own limits.

A prisoner likely to my own brainwashed ways.

However, the woman I love right now...could be as big as a house....but then again...I am certainly glad she is not.

But I digress....

BS.....your perpetuation of this idyllic myth is noting more than a perpetuation of the shame and guilt that so many girls and women drag with them every day.

Their guilt...is yours.
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Postby riverjetty » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:29 pm

No one gets out alive, and everyone is a hypocrite. We fuel the beast with our cash, and women are not immune, nor are they innocent of objectifying men. The fact they objectify them differently is makes no differrence, it leaves 7/8ths of the men on the face of the earth unacceptable partners. The last time I saw a man riding around on a stallion with money falling out of his pockets looking for a plain jane girl to take to Paris for long walks on the beach and french kissing was never. It was the same time the chicks in those ads were hanging on my arm panting for me to take them home.
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Postby clint jones » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:13 pm

Okay, here's some stupid looking dudes for the ladies and Gills. This is a little yang to even out that previous ying. Remember, love makes the world go round.

I know this is a website from Oregon, but for Christ's sake, everything doesn't have to be so political. Most men just check out the beauty then move on. That's it. Except for my mortgage broker friend Greg who can spent a large chuck of his workday checking out every beauty on the entire internet.

None of you broads better go see Sex In The City and objectify any of us poor men. Treating us like trash is wrong, wrong I tell ya. And I will not stand for this. How about you women stop writing those articles that make chicks think they're fat, or ugly, or worthless that are in Vogue, Cosmo, etc? I don't think it's dudes writing that trash...or buying it. And stop wearing makeup. You claim it makes you feel better about yourself.. Well it makes you feel better because you get more attention. And while I'm starting my rant, how about you stop getting boob jobs unless medically necessary? They serve no purpose and are nothing more than a shallow attempt to gain more attention from men. You hussy.


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Postby Gazsurf » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:17 pm

This getting disgusting! There's no way I can ever look like that!
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Postby Doc » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:32 pm

On the innnerweb you can be anything you want Gazza...

You know that!

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