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How rich is rich for a familly of 4?

Annual gross income of $100K and above?
6
38%
$200K and above?
5
31%
$500K and above?
5
31%
 
Total votes : 16

Postby speelyei » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:45 am

Uh, GROSS income of 100 Kfor a family of four? Before all the deductions?
I see you've really done your research. That would be considered rich in Panama, I suppose.


excellent, that makes me feel even better. As a Journeyman wage earner with Union representation and working my freakin @ss off in a skilled tade, the best I could ever crack was 42k. I am doing a little better than that now, but not much. I didn't realise I was not even close to middle class. Hey, and I am supporting a family of four on my single income!

I'm not crying, but my purchasing power is nil. Without side jobs (Yes, I'm a licensed contractor) I wouldn't make it month to month. If I lose my job, it will be one month to the day that the whole house of cards falls in on itself for me and my family.

Hi, my name is Craig, and I am your tax base.
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Postby Doc » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:46 am

Craig the Contractor?
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Postby speelyei » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:58 pm

yeah, that's me. How y'all doin?
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Postby clint jones » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:07 pm

Don't HATE the millionare...copy him.

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Postby speelyei » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:09 pm

oh I am not hating, my point is, I don't think my situation is unique.
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Postby fossilgrom » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:34 pm

Your are in the classic gilded cage. Don't make enough to advance, but make enough to keep paying you debt and taxes = monetary system slave.

The American dream is just another propaganda device used by the power elite to entice people into the trap. Home ownership is illusion designed to hook us up to the debt system. You never really own your home or anything really. Only the people at the top actually own things.

Of course you can set yourself free at any time, but fear keeps you in place. It really is a beautifully conceived plan for domination.

Meanwhile the ability to actually free yourself from the system is getting more and more limited as the system overwhelms and intertwines itself into almost every aspect of our lives. Our cage is getting smaller and smaller.

I guess the big question is what can we do about it?

For my part as I guess I would say stop playing the game as much as you can. Take your money out of the stock market. Take you money out of the bank. Stop using your credit cards. Use cash only ar money orders if you have to. Above all, learn to live within your means.
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Postby bluesilver » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:46 pm

I think a big portion of being happy and living with what you have, is to stop turning everything in the world into a conspiracy theory. It may or may not be a conspiracy, but your not going to stop any of it. Just acknowledge it, quietly adjust things to avoid having to be a part of it and live your life.
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Postby clint jones » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:02 pm

I think a big portion of being happy and living with what you have, is to stop turning everything in the world into a conspiracy theory. It may or may not be a conspiracy, but your not going to stop any of it. Just acknowledge it, quietly adjust things to avoid having to be a part of it and live your life.



Exactly! You summed it up perfectly.
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Postby Dub Star » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:52 pm

clint jones wrote:Don't HATE the millionare...copy him.

-Marc Frank Montoya


Quoting that snowmonkey?

Guess he is rich these days. He owns a hotel in South Lake.
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Postby speelyei » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:45 pm

Clint Jones wrote:
Don't HATE the millionare...copy him.


I am tring to think of any paid recreationalist whose opinion would matter to me....


I can't think of any.

I get the sentiment, but it's rhetoric. Better fodder for bumperstickers, not really a solid foundation for supporting a family.
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Postby pickleweed » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:20 pm

speelyei wrote:
I am tring to think of any paid recreationalist whose opinion would matter to me...


Is paid recreationalist a pseuodonym for physical education teacher?

If so, I'm with ya. I mean, 60K a year to hand out pickle ball rackets. They don't even do the most difficult part of their job, taking attendance, they have a student do that, LOL.
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Postby fossilgrom » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:04 am

bluesilver wrote:I think a big portion of being happy and living with what you have, is to stop turning everything in the world into a conspiracy theory. It may or may not be a conspiracy, but your not going to stop any of it. Just acknowledge it, quietly adjust things to avoid having to be a part of it and live your life.


Words of wisdom Blue. There is so much misinformation out there on every side - It is hard to know what to think.
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Postby WC » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:18 am

not worrying about having enough money to get by is rich
worrying about having enough money to get by is mid class
not having enough money to get by is poor
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Postby Dano » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:49 am

WC wrote:not worrying about having enough money to get by is rich
worrying about having enough money to get by is mid class
not having enough money to get by is poor


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Postby montana » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:06 am

'You're all freaking* peasants, as far as I can see...'

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