Gazsurf wrote:Wilbur Kookmeyer wrote:Kind of like that whole idea where the leftys support freedom of religion and freedom of speech, as long as you are not a Christian and as long as you say what they agree with.
But that's a whole other argument right there.
That is such a baseless statement.............
No it's not Gaz. You were not the one siting on the floor enjoying a movie and beers with your friends while your friends ruthlessly hacked away at your religion while touting the need for freedom of religion.
You are not the one that draws fire on here and in other areas based only on the idea that you claim to have Christian faith.
Have you ever heard or known of me to attack anyone based on their faith or lack there of?
How many anti-Christian slogans do you know off the top of your head? What about anti-Christian bumper stickers?
How many Anti-Budhist or Muslim slogans or stickers have you heard or seen?
Unless you are a Christian, and I assume you are not, you probably do not really understand the attitude that people have towards you. I have ben, and continue to meet, people that think I am a cool cat and groovy and what not. Then they find out that I happen to have a Christian based faith. Suddenly...I am plagued.
Freedom of speech. Please. Liberals scream for the freedom of speech but only as long as what you have to say is something they agree with.
What about hate speech? Is that not protected? What about the Neo Nazis? the Metzgers of the world, in Idaho, and elsewhere. What about the Klan?
I may not like what they have to say, but I would die for their right to say it.
Liberals on the other hand, would like to shut them up completely and do not support their right to say what they feel.
Look at what goes on within these pages? Inside this fictitious place where we joke and jobe each other. Look what happens any time someone goes against the grain of the "norm".
Freedom of speech is simply that.
.......the right wing evangelical is the most dangerous threat to religious freedoms. Try being a Muslim in Texas........ watch the Friday night pig races from the comfort of your mosque!
Can I ask who ever said I was a fundementalist republican or Christian?
The left enjoys "multi- culturalism" this includes a variety of common religions. Just not within the confines of govt. this is the big marble that keeps rolling around in the fundi's heads and they refuse to let it go. Thank god Europe has been pointing the way forward for democracy for the past 50 years. Somehow their churches still thrive........
Again...my experiences speak directly to the oppsite. Multi-culturalism is only seemingly supported as long as you are not a White Heterosexual Christian Male.
I for one would love to be treated in the world as I treat others, but I am not. I am feared, hated, and targeted based on nothing more than my looks, my religion, and the color of my skin.
Fundi's love to throw morality into almost every aspect of the medical sciences. From reproductive rights, to cell research and vaccines.......it's endless. So much of those eforts to thwart progress flies in the face of common sense, something the left is accused of lacking.
I agree. Truly. But then again...I am NOT a fundementalist in any form.
You can thank liberals that you have a Bible to read, they decriminalised the practise back in the day..................when they took their lives into their hands by secretly copying by hand and later printing them against the wishes of the church.
Liberals or not, I would thank them. though, my beliefs on the Bible's validity and purity leave a shadow of uncertainty at best.
You and I may not ever see eye to eye on anything, however, I could not tell you what your experience in South Africa was based on my conjecture, just as you can never tell me what my experience has showed me about the Liberals in the Portland area. I have been there. Within their ranks. Marched on Bush Sr. Got sprayed with the pepper spray. Watched them burn the Flag at a protest of the Gulf round one. You do not know my experiences and teachings, and I do not know yours.
But what I know...I know.
Your electric car runs on coal. Think about it....