by Wilbur Kookmeyer » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:34 pm
First off, I am not a member of the NRA.
The NRA is nothing more than a mouthpiece and often spend more time tripping over their dicks than doing any good for 'the cause'.
I would also like to offer that anyone who thinks that an armed 'militia' armed with any weapons, even 'military style' weapons, woudl be effective in an armed resistance to the US government, or any government other than Canada, are delusional.
Their level of delusion is only sedonded by those poor folks like Bluesliver that think they will ever disarm themajority of the US. Of course this delusion is almost as sad as teh delisuion that a ban on 'military style' weapons and 'high capacity' clips will ever make a difference in the safety of anyone.
The reality is, guns will never save you from your own government, and guns will never be completely banned.
Do any of you 'ban the AR15' champions even know anythign about the operational characteristics of an assault type weapon? Do you really beleive a ban on 'high capacity' ammunition clips will slow anyone down enough?
Two things:
This 'ban' is a ban on the sale of. Not a ban on the possesion of. This does absolutely nothing about the THOUSANDS of these weapons already in possession. Nothing.
Nor does it do anything about the possesion of any of the THOUSANDS of 'high capacity' clips already in existence.
Take the Clackamas shooter into thought. Did he show up with one clip and a box of ammo?
What about the Newton shooter?
Matter of fact, what about any shooter ever in the history of public shootings?
No, the vast majority of these types of shooters that use an assault type weapon show up with MULTIPLE clips that are already loaded.
So back to my question, how many of you know how many movements it takes to change clips in an assault weapon? Anyone?
Answer: 2-3 (depending on the weapon.
Witha simple push of a bottom, the empty clip will fall to the ground. The shooter then slams another clip into the receiver and either cycles a round into the chamber, or simply starts pulling the trigger again.
So I ask you, will it really matter if the clips being used hold 10 or 30 rounds?
Go back to the Clack or Newton shooter. They both carried multple clips. How would this have slowed them down?
The average response time for police is like 6 minutes.
How many shots can one effectively get off, while using a 10 round clip, in 6 minutes?
Background checks.
Another joke.
The newton shooter failed the background check, but still was able to get his han ds on weapons. Sure, you can blame this on his mom for not locking them up better, or even having them in the house to begin with. But remember this, he would have found a way to obtain the weapons.
the clack shooter stole the weapon from a friend.
How would background checks have stopped either of these shootings?
Now lets look at teh actual elements involved. Everyone is making this about the gun, and not the shooter. Teh reality is, the gun is an inanimate object. It cannot, ever, take action by itself. It lacks everything it would need to act on it's own accord. It has rely on the intent of the user.
We cannot put the gun on trial. We cannot send it to prison, we cannot correct it's actions. It is a tool. Like a hammer, a knife, or a fishing rod.
No gun has ever gone off accidentally by itself. It's a physical impossibility. It can only be facilitated by the action or inaction (choices) of human beings.
Another thing about laws, and this should be so obvious but few talk about it. You know the old saying 'if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns"? As gay as that is, and as trite and cliche, it is blaringly true in these two cases.
The Clack mall is a 'gun free' zone.
The school in Newton was a gun free' zone.
And outside of the self-proclaimed lone CHP permit holder, the only people carrying guns in each of these locations were the 'outlaws'.
Can you really tell me that taking any guns away from legal, law abiding citizens, will do anything to deter weapons related crimes?
Seattle just had a gun buy-back. They clsoed having brought in hundreds of weapons and giving out over $35k in gift cards. Their last buy-back in 1992 resulted in an increase in gun related homicides, gun related armed robberies, and gun related assaults. those are facts, look them up.
The reinstatment of the last assault weapons ban is nothing more than talk. It will result in a slight inconvenience for LEGAL gun owners, and do not a damn thing for the 'outlaws' of the world.
For the record, I do not own an assault weapon. Wait, yes I do. It is a Remington Model 8 that was made in 1918. Under the definition in the law it would be classified as a 'military style' assault weapon. It's a hunting rifle. It has a fixed magazine that carries only 5 rounds. However the Rem. Model 8-2 had a detachable clip that held more rounds. It was a rifle that was favorited by law enforcement, especially Texas Rangers, and was a model used in the gunning down of Bonny and Clyde. not that is matters, it's just interesting. Anyway, other than that I do not own an assault rifle. I don;t need one. They do not mean anythign to me. Jyst another weapon. Big deal. I own several other guns. My entire household is trainedin handling and firing them all. If you came into my house with poor intent, either you or I will be dead. And I will do my best to make sure it is not me or ayone in my familly.
I carry a handgun from time to time. I am a LEGAL permit holder. If you meet me in public, and thoruhg your own actions leave me no other choice than to fight for my life, or the lives of other 'innocents', I will do my best to kill you.
In either case I will not shoot to wound, to stop, or to scare you off. I will shoot to kill you.
I'm not a badass. I am not tough. I am a big softie and I love people and want to beleive the best in those around me. I am not paranoid or delusional. I am not a gun fanatic. All weapons I own have a purpose for me. And none of those purposes are related to some fantastical idea of an armed insurrection.
One final thought, as if you are still reading, Tomothy McVeigh (sp?) never fired a single shot.
sorry for any typos or spelling issues. I hate my new laptop and my sausage fingers make a lot of mistakes. Mmmmmm.....sausage....
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