What pisses me off...........

[estimated eyes]

freakin gdamnnn highway slugs doing 30mph in a 55 after i had a coffee, listening to rage against the machine, and only have an hour to surf.

[speelyei]

sometimes I piss myself off. It's been quite a while since I pissed myself, though. maybe tomorrow?

[pra_ggresion]

Yes desecration of a the sacred left hand passing lane pisses me off to the utmost. X2 if the sacriledge is committed by a subaru.

[Wilbur Kookmeyer]

Living under an increasingly socialistic regime.

Watching people around me get suckered.

Knowing that in fact though there is no "Logan's Run" clause in the making, that there is some serious violations of civil rights and not being able to weed through the thousands-of-pages thick proposal as it is rammed down our throats and not even having a truly independent media to get to the bottom line.

Wu when asked how this crap (some $100+ BILLION a year) would be paid for, answers something to the effect of fees on private care systems, and "some other source of revenue or another". (Direct quote) And realizing that somewhere some idiot is going "well that sure makes sense".
When asked if he and his family will get on the government plan and answers "we shouldn't personalize it".

WTF? We shouldn't personalize it?

This country is on a freight train to socialism and everyone already has their tickets.

I held my tongue during the whole Gates Gate debacle, not anymore.

Obama is an a-hole, a racist, a socialist, and is nothing more than a mouth piece for the unions backing him and ramming this crap through the system.

In a country that would make me proud, the idiot who was way too busy being "black" and the cop who made questionable decisions would have been out of the limelight, and the only person getting invited for a bro-down at the Big House would have been the woman who actually did the right thing and actually took action when she saw something that concerned her.

We are so fucked.

And if you do not realize how fucked you are, you are either stupid, asleep, or a socialist anyway.

Excuse me while I go outside, bury some more guns, and take my flag down.

[Spent]

this country will never be socialist. i wouldn't worry about that. just ask Evelyn Coke, who died uninsured after years of caring for the elderly and dying, 70+hours a week with no hope of over-time. RIP.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/10/nyregion/10coke.html?_r=1&ref=obituaries

the USA will never be willing to care for its sick, elderly, unemployed, mentally ill or homeless.

[erzats]

I just so happened to take advantage of Canada's healthcare system today. Here's how it went.

1) Showed card (costs me $35 a month, costs less to free if you are poor).

2) waited 45mins.

3) saw a doctor.

4) got a prescription.

5) went to the desk confused thinking I would need to pay or fill out something etc. Nope.

6) Paid $23 for the amoxocillin. Done. Sure, mine was a very simple case, but it was a hell of a lot smoother than doing same in states.

One way or another, US healthcare needs to get to the point that Canada is at along with every other country that gives a damn about its people. Wilbur, if you are going to be one of the conservative foot-draggers, you had better well have a different plan to get us there. Otherwise STFU and stop reiterating your FOX news drivel.

Did you ever stop to think that one of the reasons this country (meaning the states) is so damn screwed right now is exactly because there is no support for workers in the form of healthcare, pensions, and welfare (strong unions and anti globalization would help too)? You are right that it may come to gun-toting anarchy, but it's only because the gun toting morons like yourself did more than their fair share to drive us to that state.

[Wilbur Kookmeyer]

I just so happened to take advantage of Canada's healthcare system today. Here's how it went.

6) Paid $23 for the amoxocillin. Done. Sure, mine was a very simple case, but it was a hell of a lot smoother than doing same in states.

VD is a bitch.
Or so I am told.

One way or another, US healthcare needs to get to the point that Canada is at along with every other country that gives a damn about its people. Wilbur, if you are going to be one of the conservative foot-draggers, you had better well have a different plan to get us there. Otherwise STFU and stop reiterating your FOX news drivel.

Did you ever stop to think that one of the reasons this country (meaning the states) is so damn screwed right now is exactly because there is no support for workers in the form of healthcare, pensions, and welfare (strong unions and anti globalization would help too)? You are right that it may come to gun-toting anarchy, but it's only because the gun toting morons like yourself did more than their fair share to drive us to that state.

Fist off, I am not a gun toting moron. I never tote my guns.

Secondly, why does everyone always say I watch FOX news? I NEVER watch that crap. Hell, even my wife (who is more conservative than me) can't stand that crap.

Specifically what have I done to get us to "that state" that you speak of?

I don't like unions. In my opinion they breed and pander to laziness. I have never, and I mean never, known a "union man" that was not entitled minded and lazy as f@#K. And that goes for all of my friends that are in unions as well.

Obama is an a-hole, a racist, and a socialist mouth piece for the wealthy and powerful unions.

He is ramming "his" agenda so quickly down the throats of everyone that the elected officials don't even have time to read, let alone think about, the propositions they are passing.

What do you think the "unions" are going to do if/when this atrocity gets ram-rodded through? Yeah..drop health benefits for all union members based on the "increased costs and poor ecenomic performance of their investments and blah blah blah."

And earzit...you know I am not stupid.

Matter of fact..if anyone here truly believes I am a stupid, FOX news-watching, conservative drone...they themselves are idiots.

Nobody here, not one person, knows the truth about who or what I am.

Nobody.

[speelyei]

If you dont know me by now
You will never never never know me

All the things that weve been through
You should understand me like I understand you
Now girl I know the difference between right and wrong
I aint gonna do nothing to break up our happy home
Oh dont get so excited when I come home a little late at night
Cos we only act like children when we argue fuss and fight

If you dont know me by now (if you dont know me)
You will never never never know me (no you wont)
If you dont know me by now
You will never never never know me

Weve all got our own funny moods
Ive got mine, woman youve got yours too
Just trust in me like I trust in you
As long as weve been together it should be so easy to do
Just get yourself together or we might as well say goodbye
What good is a love affair when you cant see eye to eye, oh

If you dont know me by now (if you dont know me)
You will never never never know me (no you wont)
If you dont know me by now (you will never never never know me)
You will never never never know me (ooh)

[Gazsurf]

Obama is an a-hole, a racist, and a socialist mouth piece for the wealthy and powerful unions.

He is a slightly right centrist, he may be an a-hole, hard to prove tho'.

All the other aspersions even harder to prove than a-hole.

Socialists in America are about as rare as hen's teeth.

[speelyei]

it pisses me off that I will not get to see the meteor showers predicted for tonight.

[Gazsurf]

it pisses me off that I will not get to see the meteor showers predicted for tonight.

Is it because it's raining big drops in your eyes when you look up?

[tippy toes]

crocodile tears.

[erzats]

VD is a bitch.
Or so I am told.

yeah, but antibiotics do wonders. Good thing we have TAX dollars to fund medical research

Fist off, I am not a gun toting moron. I never tote my guns.

alright. Does gun burying work better for you? Having a gun with reference to personal protection implies that, one day, you will tote it. Unless you have a robot to do the shooting for you.

Secondly, why does everyone always say I watch FOX news? I NEVER watch that crap. Hell, even my wife (who is more conservative than me) can't stand that crap.

My mistake, but you should know that when the majority of the views you express here toe FOX news' line, you're likely to be accused of being one of the mindless devout. This Obama is a socialist BS started at FOX and rippled outward from there.

Specifically what have I done to get us to "that state" that you speak of?

You appear to oppose any piece of legislation that promotes helping the poor or reducing the gap between the wealthy and the abjectly impoverished. Since widening the gap is a hallmark of a nation running rapidly toward failure, your voting (I assume it reflects your opinions expressed on this forum) has been working us toward where we are today.

I don't like unions.

Sure, there are bad examples. But without unions there is a greater potential for mistreatment of workers in terms of wage, scheduling, health benefits...etc. Yeah, the automotive workers union played a major role in bringing down the US carmakers. True enough. But you can't offhandedly say that unions should be eliminated. And, if Obama is such a pal to the unions, then why would he have allowed the bankruptcy and restructuring of GM which lead to massive loss of union benefits for the workers of those plants. If he was slave to the unions he would have bailed GM out in far greater proportion than he did.

Obama is an a-hole, a racist, and a socialist mouth piece for the wealthy and powerful unions. He is ramming "his" agenda so quickly down the throats of everyone that the elected officials don't even have time to read, let alone think about, the propositions they are passing.

why an a-hole? is he a racist because he supports affirmative action? Is he a racist because he gives his race a proportional amount of attention? Maybe he sounds racist by comparison to the honkeys that have lead this country for 230+ years.

Sure he leans a tinge further left than his predecessor, however left in the states is center right in most other countries according to one prominent South African. I think you'd have a hard time pegging him much further left than B. Clinton who was not often called a socialist (although he was called one). Maybe Bill was better liked because the elder bush didn't leave quite as large a heap of shite to deal with than the more youthful Bush has left Obama. And Bill then went on the balance the freakin budget. A direction that every conservatives president has gone against in this century despite all their claims for the qualities of smaller government.

Also, if you think this administration's approach to legislation is any different than those pf previous administrations, then you are wrong. The first year of any presidency involves introducing and passing a lot of legislation. Most bills are large and widely unread (hello, homeland security act). This doesn't make the process right, but it makes it non-unique and unblamable on Obama. This whole show of pretending that this many-paged bill is unique and dangerous for its size is more FOX news BS that's being used to scare people away from the idea of some kind of more universal healthcare.

And earzit...you know I am not stupid.

Of course I do. But, as you say, I haven't the slightest idea who you are that's why I argue with your online persona -- It's all I've got to go on.

Finally, the thing I really don't understand about the conservative movement, no matter what form (rebub, libertarian, extreme leftism) is how it's static-to-regressive approach is relevant in a world that is neither static nor backward moving. Since every second of every day brings new things to the table, doesn't it make sense to approach them with new ideas? Sure, conservatism is useful for it's historical perspective. In that regard it's a very important part of any political machine, but it seems that progressive thought -- the idea of combining what we've learned from history with new approaches and ideas is a good way to address the nation's problems. What I often hear from conservatives is a desire to keep things as they are or an opposition against new ways of political thinking. But that's just me. I'm a scientist where forward propulsion is the name of the game. If you want to bury your guns, pay less taxes and ride your bike into the desert and pretend the US is the same nation it was 1day, 1year, 1 decade, or 1 century ago, fine. Go for it, but I'm doubtful that's going to help us out.

[speelyei]

crocodile tears.

huh?

[Ceedog]

6) Paid $23 for the amoxocillin. Better watch out for those Canadian bettys Erz!

Did you ever stop to think that one of the reasons this country (meaning the states) is so damn screwed right now is exactly because there is no support for workers in the form of healthcare, pensions, and welfare (strong unions and anti globalization would help too)? You are right that it may come to gun-toting anarchy, but it's only because the gun toting morons like yourself did more than their fair share to drive us to that state.

Good Points Erz.

Wilb in case you didn't know we are already well into our slide into facism. And it started in earnest with Jr. and his daddie's buddies. Socialism would almost be a blessing in comparison.

Also, if you think this administration's approach to legislation is any different than those pf previous administrations, then you are wrong. The first year of any presidency involves introducing and passing a lot of legislation. Most bills are large and widely unread (hello, homeland security act). This doesn't make the process right, but it makes it non-unique and unblamable on Obama. This whole show of pretending that this many-paged bill is unique and dangerous for its size is more FOX news BS that's being used to scare people away from the idea of some kind of more universal healthcare

It's no different, Jr. lied and threatened to get his way just as Obama is doing.

Finally, the thing I really don't understand about the conservative movement, no matter what form (rebub, libertarian, extreme leftism) is how it's static-to-regressive approach is relevant in a world that is neither static nor backward moving. Since every second of every day brings new things to the table, doesn't it make sense to approach them with new ideas? Sure, conservatism is useful for it's historical perspective. In that regard it's a very important part of any political machine, but it seems that progressive thought -- the idea of combining what we've learned from history with new approaches and ideas is a good way to address the nation's problems. What I often hear from conservatives is a desire to keep things as they are or an opposition against new ways of political thinking. But that's just me. I'm a scientist where forward propulsion is the name of the game. If you want to bury your guns, pay less taxes and ride your bike into the desert and pretend the US is the same nation it was 1day, 1year, 1 decade, or 1 century ago, fine. Go for it, but I'm doubtful that's going to help us out.

Well, I can speak for the "real" consevatives I interact with and they would say let's do it! Just don't let the government violate the bill of rights or the seperation of powers.