Issues of Localism

[The Landlord]

The source is reliable. Rickson is a solid stand-up fighter, so as for him being on his back and using BJJ.... doubtful. I can't imagine a gaggle of "Bayboys" taking him down.

[pro moe]

read in the paper this morning
guns dont kill people
chuck norris kills people

[Bison]

(From a different thread)

It's kinda funny how a few of you vilify "locals" for being unfriendly when your comments towards them don't seem to be any friendlier. I'm all for talkin' some sh!t, so carry on.

I completely agree.

Jacob & Sparky...


I agree in almost all cases and did agree with your statement in full until I had rocks thrown at me while walking down the beach by a bunch of drunk idiot locals at 10am. It's tough to respect that kinda bullchit, especially when I go outta my way to lay low, be polite and only go out if there is room in the lineup. Truth be told, I have never had any problems with anyone at Seaside except for one guy named Jason and the occasional lackey try to impress him.

[Jacob]

Sorry to hear about your experience, Bison.

I got hit by a loose board, last year, that belonged to some guy who came from an inland town, but I don't think all inlanders are kooks.

It is an easy trap to fall into once you have a bad experience with someone to then label everyone in that group as being bad. I seriously doutbt though that this is your attitude, but it is what I was responding to.

[SlimVest]

bison, this jason guy has the redish goatee, right?

[Bison]

yeah, that's the guy.

[brdsurf]

The only time I had any problems with any kind of "localism" ironically enough was in my own backyard while in the camp.
This didnt come from anyone there who claimed to be a regular there, as in like the Netarts/tillamook crew, but some person who surfed there often but made a commute which took a few hours. Ironically I wasnt even surfing when it happened.
I wonder how many of you knew of an organization called coast watch. With that program "volunteers" "adopted" a mile stretch of the beach to monitor for erosion, pollution and other things like that. It was before the Surfrider got as popular there as it did. Well, my friends and I "adopted the stretch there at the camp. It was close, we were there often and why not. Anyone who has spent enough time there has seen how much erosion has gone one there.
During one of our monthly checks and trash pickups I couldnt surf as I had earlier in the week F&cked up my ankle. The other two decided to get some waves since there was nobody else in there at the time. While they were out in the line up I was up past the little Campspot halfway up the reef picking up trash. Off the trail comes a single surfer who got close to the truck and looked around. Since there were no extra surfboards laying around and the other two were out in the lineup the guy got brave I guess and was going to "enforce" or something. As fast as I could hobble back down the reef the guy was on the other side of the truck starting to let air out of the tires. I startled him and asked what the F was going on. He decided with out even bothering to ask what was going on that we were "ruining" his surf by driving in to surf. He told me about how long he had surfed there and how he has surfed all over the world and blah blah and he felt he had the duty and right to do that. This of course led to a couple of years of crap back in PC. Luckily for him my friend who owned the vehicle didnt see what was going on otherwise there would have been throws. Because of my temper, and his quick action to flatten tires it made for many unpleasant hours in the water later. Sad thing is he would have normally been the kind of guy we would have liked to have known since most of my group has travelled all over looking for surf.

[SooLoo]

i really don't understand all the bitching regarding this subject. why is everyone bent on fixing something that ain't broke? so what if the odd rock is tossed or a little trash talking?

You guys are acting like real wussies on this subject, go cry to your mamma's. how the f@ck did any of you survive public school? most of you who talk the most about localism have no f@cking clue what it really is.

ever lived in a getto for any peeriod of time? same thing, new faces are noticed and not always welcome. same goes for fishing holes, mushroom picking, rock climbing and pretty much everything else.

a "local" is not defined in a conventional sense. it is a surfer term, plain and simple. it doesn't really mean anything more than the dude who is always there. someone who "regulates" a break is all together a different animal like that old prick at the camp.

please you all, rise off hyw 101's nutz.

[clean_up_set]

I will soak a local just the same as anybody else. Im a clean up set. Hey, its what I do.

[pro moe]

jeez what a bunch o babies crying those mean old locals took all my waves
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ya just might learn how to surf better and maybe it wont be soo bad

[SooLoo]

another thing chumps, the idea of somehow rooting out this big "problem" or dealing with it through violence or lawsuits brings to mind a Bad Religion lyric "if you came to conquer you'll be king for a day, but you too will deteriorate and quickly fade away"

[SooLoo]

[Bison]

well, it is called "Bitch and Moan"

[SooLoo]

true my friend. my frustration has reached boiling point because the same thing is discussed over and over in all forums making ALL of us look like giant wussies.

the "local" has become this mythical beast who has been givin life through the childlike fear of a few.

anybody need me for the next few days i'll be in the van down by the strait. alone and unafraid.

[redliner]

SISSY.